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October 31, 2018, 06:29:26 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Captain Vegeta. Welcome to the start.
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At this time, make sure your Blackcoin are burned properly according to the instructions issued by rat4. Also, your portable electronic devices must be set to Zero Gravity mode until an announcement is made upon arrival. Thank you.
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October 31, 2018, 06:51:34 AM
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I do think that the Jelurida license is maybe a bit controversial however I get why you went into that direction. I don't know if it had caused a positive impact of NXT or not. Only their own project has been a fork of NXT, and no others, I don't think. If someone forks a project, I see it as a compliment? (But I would be pissed as I'd prefer them to help haha!) Personally, I'd prefer an anti-ICO clause, where the work can not be sold for profit in an initial coin offering. If you are interested, I could ask a lawyer friend of mine if they would be up for writing one?

From free software point of view, selling for profit is not a problem. And forbidding all ICOs seems too restrictive.

Is the technology that BlackNet will use not known already? Or was this comment in regard to a possibility of BlackCash? Although I would assume it would then still be related to the technology of BlackNet?

Yes, that comment was about possibility of BlackCash, related to Blacknet.
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October 31, 2018, 11:55:13 PM
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November 01, 2018, 12:45:06 AM
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Why does there have to be burning, rather than just a 'virtual fork' airdropping BlackNet to everyone who holds BLK?  I want both but you are making me gamble by choosing one side -_-

On tech side, burning is better as we don't need BitcoinVM in the protocol.
And on market side, idea of snapshot caused FUD:
Further, I've spoken to exchanges and they are pissed off that you had done a snapshot without letting them know in advance.

Well, no exchanges need to be informed in advance for a snapshot and wanted to know if there will be a rescheduling for another snapshot as they need to halt wallets for a period as they too need to snapshot. That's standard. You were not communicating with me so we couldn't work together on that. The problem is, people will go to them and ask for their Blacknet coins. They would need to know when exactly the snapshot had been done. They do have a process for that.

Side note, I have been following Blacknet development, I agree with much of rat4's independent research and improvements over the regular Bitcoin-like code. They are a step in the right direction and a great improvement.

With the burning, I think, it was a good compromise the more I had thought about it. It still does serve a generally positive purpose.

I do think that the Jelurida license is maybe a bit controversial however I get why you went into that direction. I don't know if it had caused a positive impact of NXT or not. Only their own project has been a fork of NXT, and no others, I don't think. If someone forks a project, I see it as a compliment? (But I would be pissed as I'd prefer them to help haha!) Personally, I'd prefer an anti-ICO clause, where the work can not be sold for profit in an initial coin offering. If you are interested, I could ask a lawyer friend of mine if they would be up for writing one?

I think that could be the  reason nobody ripped off NXT.

 Blackcoins POS3 was ripped off with no benefit to blackcoin at all and the clones sucked away the value over time from what could have made blackcoin shine. I think it is a great idea to force an airdrop to the original investors into the work conducted by the developer. I would say it is a vital part of the reason I have invested into blacknet.

There is simply no reason to allow "compliments" that subtract value and dilute adoption to the original project.
Of all the POS3 based projects I see very few even credit blackcoin on their threads (the only thing most investors and enthusiasts look at since I doubt they pull open the code )

Now we know there will be a never ending proliferation of alts it makes no sense to spend months years developing for someone else to press copy and paste.

There is no real way you can change the terms now anyway, that would be a terrible blow for confidence. Changing things after people decide to burn or invest in other ways is not something I would consider a positive. Byteball started doing this and it was pretty catastrophic for their community and caused huge divisions.

The burning is a good plan. I would expect many will buy more black to burn and retain some blackcoins too. Win win.














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November 01, 2018, 04:19:53 AM
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Rat4, I want to send you my job application.
Can you let a newbie send you a message?
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November 13, 2018, 01:33:32 PM
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Hi
I made swap on blacknet with some of my BLK tokens and what's now?
I need to install new wallet and than get new coins or we just need to wait ?
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November 14, 2018, 09:07:52 AM
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Hi
I made swap on blacknet with some of my BLK tokens and what's now?
I need to install new wallet and than get new coins or we just need to wait ?

Yes there will be a new wallet, this will happen when the IBO is finised, now we just have to wait. Keep your Blacknet seed on a safe place until the Mainnet release.

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November 14, 2018, 10:20:09 PM
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A reminder for everyone, the bonus rate for burning is decreasing again in 2 days, it's going pretty fast now!

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November 15, 2018, 03:14:24 PM
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Hey rat4, can I suggest not to use the Jelurida license as it isn't OSD compliant? This will make Blacknet -not- open source.

It breaks rules 1 and 10

1. Free Redistribution
The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.

10. License Must Be Technology-Neutral
No provision of the license may be predicated on any individual technology or style of interface.

See definition of open source here: https://opensource.org/osd/

Airdrop of 10% or whatever the number was, to original source is a royalty to holders, thus making it not technology-neutral as it references a singular original code.
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November 15, 2018, 04:07:28 PM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Captain Vegeta. Welcome to the start.
Non-stop service from Earth's Moon to Jupiter's Callisto.

At this time, make sure your Blackcoin are burned properly according to the instructions issued by rat4. Also, your portable electronic devices must be set to Zero Gravity mode until an announcement is made upon arrival. Thank you.

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November 16, 2018, 07:33:38 AM
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Hey rat4, can I suggest not to use the Jelurida license as it isn't OSD compliant? This will make Blacknet -not- open source.

It breaks rules 1 and 10

1. Free Redistribution
The license shall not restrict any party from selling or giving away the software as a component of an aggregate software distribution containing programs from several different sources. The license shall not require a royalty or other fee for such sale.

10. License Must Be Technology-Neutral
No provision of the license may be predicated on any individual technology or style of interface.

See definition of open source here: https://opensource.org/osd/

Airdrop of 10% or whatever the number was, to original source is a royalty to holders, thus making it not technology-neutral as it references a singular original code.

Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software
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Today at 01:39:46 AM
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Ladies and gentlemen, I'm Captain Vegeta. Welcome to the start.
Non-stop service from Earth's Moon to Jupiter's Callisto.

At this time, make sure your Blackcoin are burned properly according to the instructions issued by rat4. Also, your portable electronic devices must be set to Zero Gravity mode until an announcement is made upon arrival. Thank you.

exactly.

wat is blacknet?
and how do i?
Learn what blacknet is on first post of this thread and on the website https://blacknet.ninja
If you want to get blacknet you can find instructions on how to get blacknet by clicking IBO on the website https://blacknet.ninja/burn.html
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Today at 11:53:00 AM
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Hey rat4, can I suggest not to use the Jelurida license as it isn't OSD compliant? This will make Blacknet -not- open source.

It breaks rules 1 and 10

[…]

See definition of open source here: https://opensource.org/osd/

[…]

Why Open Source misses the point of Free Software

While it can be possibly debated whether JPL is open source or not (Jelurida claims that it is open source), it doesn’t seem to satisfy the free software definition in regard to freedom 0: “the freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose”. In particular, article 12 of the JPL says:

Quote from: JPL
[…] if you require a customized DLT Instance for internal use (i.e. a private blockchain) based on the DLT Software you must obtain permission or purchase a commercial license from the original Copyright Holder however he is not in any way obliged to grant permission or sell such a license.

Ercoin (https://ercoin.tech) — proof of stake, fair distribution via burning, messages, accounts, flexible fees, flexible block time.
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